My comments to the California Public Utilities Commission begin below. But first I want to make a few pre-comments to my comments and add a conclusion that I left out – largely because my thoughts on the subject didn't become clear until after I'd handed in my paper.
For reasons known only to the parties involved, the CPUC has bent over backwards to help the TNC's expand their businesses. This has included lifting or ignoring their own Cease & Desist orders, silencing or ignoring opposition speakers during the Rulemaking hearings, and, of course, working to create a totally unique insurance policy for the TNC's that would enable them to cut their insurance costs and keep their business model intact.
For the TNC business model to work, the TNC drivers have to be able to keep their personal insurance because commercial insurance would simply be too expensive for people using their cars to make a little extra money. If, as the insurance companies have indicated, the TNC drivers would need commercial insurance to transport customers, the TNC corporations would trouble finding drivers.
The other alternative would for the TNC corps to take out fleet policies like taxicab and limo companies carry but these are expensive and would force the TNC to raise their rates - putting an end to one of the main reasons why some customers might prefer the TNC's to taxis.
So they (the TNC's) came up with a new type of insurance policy. Instead of full coverage, the policy gives "per incident coverage for incidents involving TNC vehicles and drivers IN TRANSIT or DURING A TNC TRIP."
If I read this correctly it covers a driver for the period after he or she accepts an electronic hail to the point and time when said driver drops off the customer. Lyft CEO John Zimmer has said he wouldn't show it to anybody because it was a totally unique policy that he didn't want imitated.
And, he's right about it being totally unique but it probably won't be imitated. There may be a reason why nobody has ever written a policy like this before. It doesn't appear to work.
For instance, the term "in transit" is vague. Does it just mean when a driver has accepted an electronic hail and not picked anybody up yet, or can it mean the time that the drivers spend driving around looking for business? It's impossible to tell from the wording.
It would also be impossible for the insurance companies to tell whether or when the TNC vehicles are being used for business, which is the main reason why insurance companies insist on commercial insurance for vehicles transporting passengers in the first place.
There could be a lot more said about said about this. My comments to the CPUC start here:
The
CPUC wrote in their decision:
“Each TNC
must maintain excess
liability insurance policies providing a
minimum of $1,000,000 (one
million dollars) per-incident coverage
for incidents involving TNC
vehicles and drivers
in transit to or during a TNC trip. The
insurance coverage must be available to cover
claims regardless of whether a relevant TNC
driver maintains insurance adequate to cover
any portion of
the claim.
We note that
the claim that
Lyft, SideCar, and Uber do not have insurance is false. The Commission's safety & The Commission’s Safety & Enforcement Division, in entering into settlement
agreements with these TNCs,
made sure that each of these companies maintained excess
liability insurance policies
providing a minimum
of $1 million per incident. We note
PIFC’s comments in
this Rulemaking, and
note that, even if
a TNC driver’s personal insurance does not
apply in the
event of an
accident, the excess liability insurance
required by the
Commission will apply.”
The
CPUC is to be congratulated for finally working out insurance agreements with
Lyft and SideCar since both corporations (especially Sidecar) claimed to have
million dollars policies in effect long before they actually did.
However,
I believe that there are two aspects of public safety that do not appear to be adequately
covered by these agreements.
1. The fact that all three TNC’s require both their passengers and drivers to sign terms & agreements that waive the right to receive compensation in case of negligence or an accident while riding in a TNC vehicle. As far as I know the TNC’s are the only forms of public transportation – be it bus, airplane, train, taxi or limo – where customers must sign away their rights to collect liability just to get into a vehicle.
·
Lyft’s Limitation
of Liability (1)
· IN NO EVENT WILL WE, OUR
SUBSIDIARIES, OFFICERS, DIRECTORS, EMPLOYEES OR OUR SUPPLIERS, BE LIABLE TO YOU
FOR ANY INCIDENTAL, CONSEQUENTIAL, OR INDIRECT DAMAGES (INCLUDING, BUT NOT
LIMITED TO, DAMAGES FOR DELETION, CORRUPTION, LOSS OF DATA, LOSS OF PROGRAMS,
FAILURE TO STORE ANY INFORMATION OR OTHER CONTENT MAINTAINED OR TRANSMITTED BY
OUR SERVICES, SERVICE INTERRUPTIONS, OR FOR THE COST OF PROCUREMENT OF
SUBSTITUTE SERVICES) ARISING OUT OF OR IN CONNECTION WITH LYFT, OUR SERVICES OR
THIS AGREEMENT (HOWEVER ARISING, INCLUDING NEGLIGENCE) EVEN IF WE OR OUR AGENTS
OR REPRESENTATIVES KNOW OR HAVE BEEN ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF SUCH
DAMAGES. WE DO NOT SCREEN THE PARTICIPANTS USING THE SERVICES IN ANY WAY. AS A
RESULT, WE WILL NOT BE LIABLE FOR ANY DAMAGES, DIRECT, INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL
AND/OR CONSEQUENTIAL, ARISING OUT OF THE USE OF LYFT OR THE SERVICES,
INCLUDING, WITHOUT LIMITATION, TO DAMAGES ARISING OUT OF COMMUNICATING AND/OR
MEETING WITH OTHER PARTICIPANTS OF LYFT OR THE SERVICES, OR INTRODUCED TO YOU VIA
LYFT OR THE SERVICES. SUCH DAMAGES INCLUDE, WITHOUT LIMITATION, PHYSICAL
DAMAGES, BODILY INJURY, DEATH AND OR EMOTIONAL DISTRESS AND DISCOMFORT.
·
Sidecar’s Limitation of
Liability (2)
·
·
TO THE MAXIMUM EXTENT PERMITTED BY APPLICABLE LAW,
IN NO EVENT SHALL SIDECAR, ITS AFFILIATES, AGENTS, DIRECTORS, EMPLOYEES,
SUPPLIERS OR LICENSORS BE LIABLE FOR ANY DIRECT, INDIRECT, PUNITIVE,
INCIDENTAL, SPECIAL, CONSEQUENTIAL OR EXEMPLARY DAMAGES, INCLUDING WITHOUT
LIMITATION DAMAGES FOR LOSS OF PROFITS, GOODWILL, USE, DATA OR OTHER INTANGIBLE
LOSSES, THAT RESULT FROM THE USE OF, OR INABILITY TO USE, THIS SERVICE,
INCLUDING WITHOUT LIMITATION ANY RIDES FACILITATED BY THE SERVICE. UNDER NO
CIRCUMSTANCES WILL SIDECAR BE RESPONSIBLE FOR ANY DAMAGE, LOSS OR INJURY
RESULTING FROM HACKING, TAMPERING OR OTHER UNAUTHORIZED ACCESS OR USE OF THE
SERVICE OR YOUR ACCOUNT OR THE INFORMATION CONTAINED THEREIN.
·
TO THE MAXIMUM EXTENT PERMITTED BY APPLICABLE LAW,
SIDECAR ASSUMES NO LIABILITY OR RESPONSIBILITY FOR ANY (I) ERRORS, MISTAKES, OR
INACCURACIES OF CONTENT; (II) PERSONAL INJURY, INCLUDING DEATH, OR PROPERTY
DAMAGE, OF ANY NATURE WHATSOEVER, RESULTING FROM YOUR ACCESS TO OR USE OF OUR
SERVICE (INCLUDING RIDES FACILITATED BY THE SERVICE); (III) ANY UNAUTHORIZED
ACCESS TO OR USE OF OUR SECURE SERVERS AND/OR ANY AND ALL PERSONAL INFORMATION
STORED THEREIN; (IV) ANY INTERRUPTION OR CESSATION OF TRANSMISSION TO OR FROM
THE SERVICE; (V) ANY BUGS, VIRUSES, TROJAN HORSES, OR THE LIKE THAT MAY BE
TRANSMITTED TO OR THROUGH OUR SERVICE BY ANY THIRD PARTY; (VI) ANY ERRORS OR
OMISSIONS IN ANY CONTENT OR FOR ANY LOSS OR DAMAGE INCURRED AS A RESULT OF THE
USE OF ANY CONTENT POSTED, EMAILED, TRANSMITTED, OR OTHERWISE MADE AVAILABLE
THROUGH THE SERVICE; AND/OR (VII) USER CONTENT OR THE DEFAMATORY, OFFENSIVE, OR
ILLEGAL CONDUCT OF ANY THIRD PARTY. IN NO EVENT SHALL SIDECAR, ITS AFFILIATES,
AGENTS, DIRECTORS, EMPLOYEES, SUPPLIERS, OR LICENSORS BE LIABLE TO YOU FOR ANY
CLAIMS, PROCEEDINGS, LIABILITIES, OBLIGATIONS, DAMAGES, LOSSES OR COSTS IN AN
AMOUNT EXCEEDING THE AMOUNT PAID TO YOU BY SIDECAR HEREUNDER OR $1,000.00,
WHICHEVER IS GREATER.
As
I pointed out in my initial comments (3), these terms print out to more than 20
pages at 12 point type and are impossible to read on a smartphone, meaning that
few passengers or drivers know, much less understand, the terms they signed.
Although these waivers of liability would probably not hold up in a court of law, they
have no place at all in the contracts of companies transporting the public.
They
also speak to the duplicity and dishonesty (4) with which Lyft and Sidecar
conduct their businesses and the need to closely regulate them.
2. The CPUC states that the $1million per incident insurance policies covers the drivers “even if a TNC driver’s personal insurance does not apply in the event of an accident, the excess liability insurance required by the Commission will apply.”
The
CPUC appears to assume that once said driver is no longer transporting TNC
customers and is driving the car for personal reasons that the driver’s
personal insurance would take effect.
However,
I believe that this that this is a misreading of the PIFC’s comments (5). The
PIFC was not talking simply about a “per incident” basis when they wrote,
“… the industry standard for personal auto insurance policy contracts is to exempt from insurance coverage claims involving vehicles used for transporting passengers for a fee. Thus, in situations where a vehicle is insured as a private vehicle and is used to transport passengers for a fee, no insurance would exist.”
“… the industry standard for personal auto insurance policy contracts is to exempt from insurance coverage claims involving vehicles used for transporting passengers for a fee. Thus, in situations where a vehicle is insured as a private vehicle and is used to transport passengers for a fee, no insurance would exist.”
The
PIFC DID NOT specifically write that that “no insurance would exist” only WHEN
or WHILE the vehicle is transporting passengers for a fee but IF the vehicle is
used for transporting passenger at all.
This
was clarified by the last sentence of the paragraph – one that the CPUC left
out in it’s ruling.
“Tracking if accidents have occurred involving such vehicles is difficult, as the insurer will not always have the knowledge that the passenger paid for transport.”
“Tracking if accidents have occurred involving such vehicles is difficult, as the insurer will not always have the knowledge that the passenger paid for transport.”
In
other words, since it’s often impossible to tell if a vehicle is being used
commercially at any particular time, it always must be insured at commercial
rates if it is used for commercial purposes at all.
This
is a standard insurance practice with taxicabs. If, for example, an individual
owns and operates a taxicab by himself, the vehicle still requires commercial
insurance even when the driver is using it for personal reasons like grocery
shopping or taking his children to see a doctor.
It
can be much more difficult tell whether a TNC vehicle is being used to
transport passengers then it would be for a taxicab because the TNC’s would
have removable markings. In addition, the CPUC’s description of when the TNC’s $1
million policies is vague and ambiguous.
Each TNC
must maintain excess
liability insurance policies providing a
minimum of $1,000,000 (one
million dollars) per-incident coverage
for incidents involving TNC
vehicles and drivers
in transit to or during a TNC trip.
But
what about the times that the TNC vehicles are neither in transit to a TNC trip
nor on such a trip? What about the times that they are working as a TNC
vehicles but don’t currently have a ride or hail? Are they covered by the
$1million policies at such times or not?
In
addition, if a TNC driver who carries only personal insurance causes an
accident, he may be covered for the liability by the $1 million but any
collision policy he might have would “not exist.” This could result in a severe
financial loss for the driver.
All
of the above naturally would lead to either the TNC’s or the TNC drivers to
giving false information about an accident. And, this would no doubt lead to
the general public picking up the bill in terms of higher rates for their
personal insurance policies.
Therefore,
the TNC vehicles should be required to carry commercial insurance in addition
to the TNC’s carrying $1 million per incident policies.
I’m
a former insurance underwriter and I think that insurance companies will soon require
commercial insurance for individual TNC drivers once they understand the
potential problems that I’ve mentioned above – if they are not doing so
already. It would be easier for all concerned if the CPUC would clarify the
situation by either requiring individual TNC drivers to carry commercial
insurance or requiring the TNC corporations to carry $1 million fleet policies listing all
drivers and cars covered like taxicab companies are currently required to do.
· Notes CPUC Final Comments
· 3. Ed Healy’s comments to Rulemaking 12-12-0011 Undercover at Sidecar and Lyft: 100,000
Uninsured Rides and Counting p10 & 11.
· 4. Ibid. p. 2-4, 8-11
· 5. Personal Insurance Federation of CA Comments to
Rulemaking 12-12-0011
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ReplyDeletefirst as always, thanks for the effort. do hope that some of your lines get stolen by the powers that be to put a stop to the rogue apps.
the headline here being "FOLLOW THE INSURANCE" as the good old days of watergate in dc.
deep analysis of the proposed regulations text shows a number of logical flaws. on purpose ? or just trying to justify the cashing of the consulting check for said efforts ?
critical thinking 101.
1. is a driver insured 24x7 or just a shift ?
is there a shift ? answer = no. there is not. drivers can work 1 minute or 24 hrs in the rogue app world.
1a. is a driver fully ($1M liability + regular car insurance) insured for a ride ? shirley (don't call me) you jest the poor driver AND passenger. read 1ab below.
1ab. is a driver fully insured ($1M liability + regular car insurance) "on transit" to pick up/deliver said ride ?
what if driver gets hit or hits someone 30 seconds AFTER drop off. since, we are in the theater of the absurd. what if driver gets hit or hits someone BEFORE the customer is picked up?
thus (critical thinking 101) drivers must be insured 24x7
how much is the driver going to pay for said FULLY INSURED POLICY 24x7 ?
and therein lies the fallacy at hand.
$1M liability policy must be higher than $750K (limos world) right ? so, we know $750K liability is between $300-$400 a month after the initial customary "downpayment" whatever that is.
and thanks to your eagle eye, the main california insurance cartel already went on record saying that they will not insure "for hire" vehicles.
part time drivers/pot heads/et al will fly the nest rather quickly. won't they ? either for the not-worth-it insurance policy or because they like their weed...etc and do not want any drug testing.
this...meaning insurance will put a amtrak-dent on these rogue apps, which i know for a fact ARE losing drivers due to their bias rating (ask any cab driver about their racist ratings) which are so arbitrary and whimsical by the clients of these apps which are so full of themselves and blame drivers for all the problems in the planet.
hopefully, after the fog goes west to the farallons (as it should be) these apps will be populated by a cab brothers trying to raise another buck or 2 so that they can pay for college for their kids.
That's it folks, Google just merged with Uber, 250 million dollars worth, two weeks ago Lyft got 60 million, the taxi industry is over as we know it. Yellow, Green and the rest basically being replaced by Black and Pink, to be honest I hope Uber come out with big black buses and stick numbers on them and completely do away with Muni buses too, That's what the SFMTA get for being to slow and especially for what they did to the drivers on the list, shame on them, they deserve to go down, bad karma coming back to bite them in the ass. Government in general is to slow, staffed by mediocrities and ridden with obsolete rules and inefficiencies, the MTA board and all those supervisors particularly Scot Weiner and the so called Mayor are all in the techie companys pockets they rule the city now.
ReplyDeleteEd I admire your fight and the battles you may have won and the battles you may continue to win but you will never win the war not when your up against this type of shall we say money. God bless you and the honest hard working real cab drivers out there.
Wow! You are absolutely right. http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/8002c836-0c42-11e3-8f77-00144feabdc0.html#axzz2cvJO16ns. In addition Jeff Besos, who founded Amazon & now owns the Washington Post, also owns stock in Uber as does the founded of TechCrunch. Google's earlier investment in Sidecar got them started.
ReplyDeleteYes this explains a lot – including the near impossibility of getting negative facts (i.e. the truth) about the TNC's published in any form of media.
We're living in a new techie oligarchy. But ... did Martin Luther King give up because the odds were against him?
Don't get disheartened Ed by the cash they are getting. Keep plugging away, nothing defeats that fact that Uberx and Lyft don't have proper insurance, and this is going to play into things in a big way. I drive 4 nights a week and am still making a good living. The 250 million is directed at more places than San Francisco I can tell you that. They Really want New York but can't get it because of the Dynamics of that place being a huge cab city with too many cabs for them to really penetrate the market there.
DeletePS I now use bing as my search engine.
The city stands to lose more in medallion revenue than Google invested in Uber which was 258 million. Without some move to instill confidence in future medallion purchasers, it doesn't seem like the city will sell more than a 100 or so more before drivers balk at the new risk to reward scenario. Why doesn't the SFMTA guarantee to purchase back the medallions at the full price from any driver who has purchased and wants to get out? At some point very soon, the San Francisco Federal Credit Union is going to reevaluate their risk in loaning for medallions and withdraw from the whole program. Am I off base here?
ReplyDeleteIf the future is really driverless taxi's, has anybody thought about what this means for the 800 hour yearly driving requirement? To stay competitive, SF taxi's will have to move towards this technology otherwise they will get caught with their pants down as they did when they failed to recognize the importance of a central dispatch and e hail. In ten years, people are going to prefer riding in a driverless cab. In fact, it will be promoted as being safer than a traditional driver and insurance companies my require it or give such heavy discounts that the old driver system will become economically unvialble. This is what people have already been debating with personal driverless technology which the Governor already approved and signed into law.
ReplyDeleteHere is the shocking proof of what the future will look like with UBER in one year. How can we in the taxi world compete with this? This looks like check mate.
ReplyDeletehttp://techcrunch.com/2013/08/25/uberauto/
Ed,
ReplyDeleteThat turned out to be a fake Tech Crunch article that fooled many people. Probably is going to be the future though.